Room 104 Is Both Incubator and Stage for Filmmakers You Should Know Salon

IDA Lath member Marina Goldovskaya worked for more than 20 years for Central Russian Goggle box. She has made 27 documentaries as director/cinematographer/writer and l documentary television programs equally director/cinematographer, for Russian, Austrian, French and U.S. broadcast. Amongst her works are Solovky Power(Special Jury Prize, Amsterdam; 1989), A Taste of Liberty (Turner Broadcasting; 1990), The Shattered Mirror (Gilt Gate, San Francisco; Gold Hugo, Chicago; 1993) and Business firm on Arbat Street (Best Flick, Prix Europa; 1994). She taught at Moscow'southward State Academy and the University of California—San Diego; since 1993, she has been Professor of Motion picture and Television at the University of California—Los Angeles.

Tell me beginning about this notion of a "documentary salon."

Marina Goldovskaya: The purpose is to bring documentaries and documentarians together. Encourage some conversation, some feedback. On the whole, filmmakers are lonely wolves, you know? Particularly i n documentary, where a single person could be responsible for everything, the planning and the fundraising, the shooting and the editing, getting the work into distribution. It is and then important to have exchange, ideas, to get feedback. As a filmmaker, I need that. My anonymous audience, equally big as tin can be, has to reinforce that feeling I have, to share something of importance: nosotros need to see the eyes of the people when we show them the film. I desire to see if my picture touched their souls. I want a salon series that offers that chance for feedback, to filmmakers and others, nigh a work under focus, to get people talking, excited about what is going on.

Those kinds of events are taking identify elsewhere past groups such as AIVF. Why documentary, and why Los Angeles for a start?

In Los Angeles, people are very much oriented to the fiction motion-picture show, and documentary is not the mainstream. The San Francisco Bay Area, New York City, Chicago perhaps, it 's not the same. There y'all can bump into documentaries, in theatres, at festivals, without going out of your way. In Los Angeles, it requires swell effort. In the fall season, of course, you have features and shorts in theatres to qualify for Oscar® consideration, and with the IDA DOCtober, the climate is much improved. Merely that's only one month out of twelve. Nosotros need more, and regular sessions where new work gets shown and discussions have identify. Information technology 's vital.

This sounds a little similar the Cine Guild move of the '20s, in Paris, where artists from all fields descended on film to explore the boundaries of the artform.

Of class. And that was the nascency of the avant garde for film, wasn't it? The thought of word, interchange-at the commencement of a pic, during, later on—it'southward all function of my upbringing. You lot know, I've been making films for twenty-5 years. In Russia, I graduated from the State film school, and immediately I started on Ph.D. 1 and Ph.D. two. We had the all-time teachers, the best filmmakers who were working. Every Friday, nosotros had a new picture show, Russian or foreign, we were open up: the public could not see these, just we could. And we had the almost beautiful cinematheque, and we were exposed to all these filmmakers, from all over the globe. I remember 1 week we had the whole week devoted to Italian filmmaking. It began at 7 o'clock in the forenoon, sometimes 6, and we would watch all these films, and meet all these people, and it was an experience that I've remembered for the remainder of my life, it was so exciting and then stimulating. We were exposed to the all-time.

Of grade, today, it is sometimes difficult to know what is the all-time: sometimes I see a film and I honey it, but I don't know whether it will concluding. That 's something a salon tin can help with, to encounter new work, and through discussion, to put it into perspective.

One of the things the mag tries to practice is an occasional commodity on the heritage of documentary.

Well, of course, that is cardinal. Information technology's didactics. We accept to try to brainwash people about how to watch documentaries, to enjoy them as much as they exercise fiction films. Of class, the pioneers learned this. Grierson, he used the discussion "documentary" in 1926 to describe Flaherty's Moana and nosotros've been arguing almost the word always since. It definitely is non the all-time term to ascertain the genre. Cavalcanti once said, "I detest the word documentary. I think it smells of dust and boredom." I agree: I personally prefer "nonfiction."

When I started didactics, I thought how can I stir this interest in documentaries from students? So, at UCLA my outset lecture, I ask "Does anyone know what documentary is?" Everybody raises their hands right away. And I tell them that my goal is to bring them to hesitate earlier they answer, because they will not know what documentary is: it is such a rich genre, such a multifariousness of expressions, that it is hard to say hands what documentary is. So, my goal is to evidence them what documentary tin be. And for every form, I bear witness them one film from the history of documentary, and and so right abroad, another movie, from today. And I search for that link, betwixt the two films, to testify them how rich and beautiful is the world of documentary. Something like Human of Aran, the film will stay with them, forever, the way information technology influenced me, stayed with me, made me equally a human existence. Evidence them how neat a range is there for documentary. Information technology can be an art film, a social result exploration, nigh life and decease, information technology can be anything, a reflection on homo club. My thinking is that this is something that must be taught, can exist taught. If we could have a documentary channel, on cable, to show documentaries with introductions by people who understand and honey documentary, and introduce the people who made the film and explicate why this film was made and what was meant to be said and how it should exist watched, I think there would be a much bigger audience for documentary.

I'thousand thinking today that in that location is probably a larger audience for documentary than we think. I mean, the numbers of viewers who are devoted to the Discovery channels and A&Due east's History channel, to National Geographic, Cinemax Reel Life, PBS... we're talking very significant numbers here, and these are not people who are making documentaries.

In that location was a time when people identified the documentary with learning, school lessons, something to make you improve, like bitter medicine, castor oil, terrible to taste but good for you. May­ be some still recall this: the documentary is data, education, nothing more. We need to show them films that not just brainwash and enlighten, only offer something more, something for their souls.

People are getting dissuaded from contemporary tv set and fiction films, from all the claret and the gore, the explosions, the sex. They want something else. And I think that's why those cable channels are finding a new audience. Merely nosotros demand more than. I mean, documentary can become the art of the 21st century. The idea of a salon is to bring us closer together, as close as possible, to collaborate, to share, to network with each other, non just filmmakers only anyone seriously interested in furthering the art form.

Sounds like, to paraphrase Clemenceau, documentary is too important to go out to the filmmakers.

...Well, look: what we know almost the balance of the world is and then impoverished. We encounter so very little. Documentary tin enrich our knowledge of other places, people, in such a personal, complete way. Nobody here has seen the motion picture My Vote is My Secret. I saw the picture, because I was on the jury for a festival. I was crying all the mode through! The film was made by S African filmmakers. And I could experience the soul of the people from this film. What do nosotros know about the daily lives of people in other lands? o wonder nosotros have these stereotypes, out of ignorance. Nosotros know that documentary is a way to change the policies, nosotros all know that. And then we piece of work in documentary because nosotros accept the feeling that we can do something for the society. And that's not a socialist idea: information technology 'southward the idea that started Flaherty, and Grierson, and Joris Ivens, and all the contemporary filmmakers, an Errol Morris or a Chris Marker or a Jessica Yu, they feel the same way.

I'm wondering in Los Angeles, where at leastf our of the best schools for film and television are located, what function does the grooming of documentary makers accept in the programs here? Well, of grade, there is UCLA, and USC, and Cal Arts, Loyola Marymount, besides AFI. And most of the immature people come to Los Angeles because this is still the amusement uppercase. So, their involvement is in entertainment, special effects, screenwriting, animation. The schools hither are excellent for that. Only nosotros owe information technology to the students to introduce more avenues. And we can't ignore the people from other fields, who perhaps aren't thinking nigh making films or television shows as their primary career. Documentary today is the most important tool to create a dialogue within the society. Non only as an art course merely as a tool, for enquiry. So, at UCLA, I take all these students who want to take my class, and they come from different departments, non just the Schoolhouse of Film and Television, merely from all over the campus, from sociology and anthropology, compages and urban planning, psychology, all over. And they want to know how to make documentaries. The technology today is so accessible, Howdy-8, digital, that these researchers can use them fairly easily, to tape their research. And they tin can practise this with very niggling money and reach so many more people than in impress.

We hope in the futurity at UCLA to open up The Documentary Center, where we tin give the tools of the documentary to those people who need them, to researchers in other fields who can share their findings with vast groups of people through screenings of their work, a place where documentary is a common interest, not just an culling. Focus, that's what we want; and a salon fits perfectly with that idea, y'all know?

And the interest is very much at that place. I have a workshop at UCLA, for documentary makers: they will be the documentary professionals of the future. And I showed them Portrait of Jason, a pic that lasts for 104 minutes, my class is only two hours. So, what happened? The form is over, they can go home, merely they sit down for another 2 ane/2 hours discussing the film. Can you imagine that in a classroom subsequently y'all've shown Waterworld? I'k certain that when I show Fast, Cheap and Out of Command these students will spend another three hours discussing with each other the moving-picture show.

We had a great word on a.k.a. Don Bonus, by Spencer akasako, a portrait of a community from the indicate of view of one of its members. This motion picture is a perfect case of what can be done today with the new technology by those who have talent and involvement in their roots. And most immature people—judging from my students—are interested in their roots: they want to find out what fabricated them who they've become—information technology's important to them.

That'south what I desire to get into the salon. All these questions and interests, discussion, interchange. And we've had a expert commencement. Our first evening, we had Shonali Bose, an Indian filmmaker, and her new film Lifting the Veil. For November, we followed up with Lourdes Portillo, a very talented filmmaker from the Bay Area. December, nosotros won't schedule anything: a busy calendar month for people. But in January, nosotros are bringing Albert Maysles, for a week of workshops, screening all his work. We program discussions with him nigh his work. He is such a corking guy, so filled with ideas, so much energy. The sessions will be open to others, not just UCLA students; it should be very stimulating.

What practice you lot meet as the biggest challenge today for documentary?

Well, I don't recollect it is money anymore. Of course, it would be smashing to get good funding and not to spend most of your time and efforts searching for grants and sponsors. I was lucky to work for more than twenty years in a situation where I was funded by the government and later on, by the networks. That's no longer possible, simply I am not pessimistic. I recall the situation in recent years has changed drastically for documentary. We accept digital technology, small cameras and editing equipment that enable u.s. to brand films of loftier quality at a very low toll. You lot recollect Alexandre Astruc'south "Photographic camera stylo?" Yes, he was correct: the photographic camera becomes as accessible as a pen is to a writer. Now nosotros can live with a camera and record life equally well as our ain personal experiences.

Do you know Pecker Viola'south movie, The Passing? Information technology 'due south about his mother, and it moved me deeply. I myself made a picture show when my mother died. I took a photographic camera and I went into the streets and I made a film with a very simple camera. I made information technology for $v,000. It gave me a chance to limited my ain feelings and to record events of 1992 in Russia. Documentary is an amazing affair: it is a tape of time, a condensation of time, and its emotional picture.

No, it 'due south not the money. It 'due south getting the work out and then that the most people tin come across it. And talk about it, permit it influence them. And the piece of work has to be about the people, non just the facts, not just the history. Information technology 's the people, their memories, this is the history to preserve. Nosotros have to remember that we are citizens of this world , and if we want to be sure that this world does non go blown upwards, we have to speak the memories. When we are collecting the memories, we are preserving the history of the world. And documentary is the best way to preserve this history. But let's go dorsum to the documentarian: he is a lonely wolf. Now what is difficult is not how to handle the engineering science and not how to make people comfortable, to avoid staging and other problems in capturing life. No, at present we face structuring, conquering and taming the reality that is captured by the photographic camera: shaping the film. And here the filmmaker is alone. For him to be able to share his experience, to go friendly and professional feedback or assist from a good editor or sound person, becomes more and more important. That's why I am sure that we need an atmosphere of a community, a customs of people, for whom documentary is a way of life, an obsession.

I promise the documentary salons, which UCLA and IDA volition co-sponsor, volition become the first step in creating just such a community in Los Angeles.

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